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Title: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 28, 2015, 05:21:19 AM
Introduction

[How to] Building your own gaming PC?
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First and foremost, I am not going to be giving a detailed 'How To' on making a gaming PC. Hence the question mark in the topic name, this is more or less a way to learn how to optimally make your own gaming PC. With help from others, and what I can provide, I am going to try and build my very own. This is more of a query topic, to help myself find the best way to make my gaming/personal computer rig. I also want to help others who may be in need of some assistance on building their own PC. This is an off shoot of Agy's topic, only mine will be for personal use and gaming. We're going to gather the best information/tips from others that we can compile to better help build a PC. I will provide simple ways to begin, because building a PC can seem overwhelming. But I found out, through various sources, that it's quite simple. It's almost HARD to mess it up, if you know what you want and need. Below I will explain the basic functional gaming computer components you will need. From there, you can expand on it with your own information, or help from others. I want this to be a discussion and help topic, as well as a learning experience for everyone. I eventually want this topic to transform into a [How To] that works for everyone. Hope you enjoy!

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Basic Components

From here on out I will name the functioning pieces you will need to assemble your very own PC. The point AFTER this is which brand, how much you use, and what it is for. Mostly this will be for gaming for me, so I am thinking with that in mind. Anyway, without further ado here are the components and what they do:

  • CPU- (Central Processing Unit) The key component of a computer system, which contains the circuitry necessary to interpret and execute program instructions.
  • CPU Cooler- A device that draws heat away from a CPU chip and other hot-running chips such as a graphics processor (GPU). (I believe this can be optional, unless you are over clocking something.)
  • Motherboard- The motherboard is the main circuit board of your computer and is also known as the main board or logic board. Attached to the motherboard, you'll find the CPU, ROM, memory RAM expansion slots, PCI slots, and USB ports. It also includes controllers for devices like the hard drive, DVD drive, keyboard, and mouse. Basically, the motherboard is what makes everything in your computer work together.
  • RAM- (Random Access Memory) The primary working memory in a computer, used for the temporary storage of programs and data and in which the data can be accessed directly and modified.
  • Hard Drive- A high-capacity, self-contained storage device containing a read-write mechanism plus one or more hard disks, inside a sealed unit. Also called hard disk drive.
  • Graphics Card- A printed circuit board that controls the output to a display screen.
  • Case- A computer case also known as a computer chassis, tower, system unit, cabinet, base unit or simply case, is the enclosure that contains most of the components of a computer (usually excluding the display, keyboard and mouse).
  • Power Supply- Also called a power supply unit or PSU, the component that supplies power to a computer.
*Optional-
SSD- (Solid State Drive) a storage device containing nonvolatile flash memory, used in place of a hard disk because of its much greater speed.

This is all you will need to build your own computer. From here it gets tricky as far as what to buy, what parts work well with others, etc. Basically personal preference, or others personal experience are needed. But only for folks like myself, whom have NEVER built a computer and need tips. This also goes for others that need help to. So, now we begin solving the issue, and learning new things in the mean time. And if you'd like, even talk about your own past projects. How you build them, or what you recommend for beginners, let's make this a wonderful discussion into PC building!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on March 28, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
You could always add SSD's to the OP they are a very fast storage medium. But different to a HDD.

finally I'm useful
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: The White Rabbit on March 28, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
You could always add SSD's to the OP they are a very fast storage medium. But different to a HDD.

finally I'm useful
In the Case of SSD I always recommend sticking your O/S and any games which have lots of data to read since it has a very fast Read/Write speed (if I am still correct been three years since College xD )
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Gary on March 28, 2015, 04:36:08 PM
www.reddit.com/r/buildapc
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 28, 2015, 07:28:19 PM
You could always add SSD's to the OP they are a very fast storage medium. But different to a HDD.

finally I'm useful

my only pause for SSD, is there fail rate.

now maybe they are a lot better then they used to be, but as far as I know they have a much higher fail rate then a HDD.

theres also price.

but if they have come down in fail rates I would love to know so I can update my brain ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on March 28, 2015, 09:09:58 PM
my only pause for SSD, is there fail rate.

now maybe they are a lot better then they used to be, but as far as I know they have a much higher fail rate then a HDD.

theres also price.

but if they have come down in fail rates I would love to know so I can update my brain ^_^

You might find this interesting http://ssdendurancetest.com/

From what I know they arent unreliable at all, but like HDD's some might last 10 years others a year lol technology can be unpredictable.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 28, 2015, 10:14:17 PM
You could always add SSD's to the OP they are a very fast storage medium. But different to a HDD.

finally I'm useful
I think I may, considering some may want a more powerful machine. :D Thanks Kitty!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 28, 2015, 10:19:55 PM
www.reddit.com/r/buildapc
Not a big fan of reddit, Con. I've used them before on different topics and the sources were always inaccurate and misleading.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 28, 2015, 10:22:01 PM
In the Case of SSD I always recommend sticking your O/S and any games which have lots of data to read since it has a very fast Read/Write speed (if I am still correct been three years since College xD )
So basically things you want done in a flash would be placed in SSD?
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MrMarooca on March 28, 2015, 10:37:37 PM
So basically things you want done in a flash would be placed in SSD?
Basically, if you want something to be faster, stick it on an SSD (OS, games, etc.). I wouldn't recommend putting huge files on one, as they usually have a smaller amount of space than an HDD.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 28, 2015, 10:42:17 PM
Basically, if you want something to be faster, stick it on an SSD (OS, games, etc.). I wouldn't recommend putting huge files on one, as they usually have a smaller amount of space than an HDD.
If you were to guesstimate, how big would the file have to be to fit under that category of 'Huge?' Just so I know for future reference. I believe only games would really go there for me.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MrMarooca on March 28, 2015, 11:09:57 PM
If you were to guesstimate, how big would the file have to be to fit under that category of 'Huge?' Just so I know for future reference. I believe only games would really go there for me.
I'd put only things under about 8GB - 12GB in an SSD. I suppose that could differ depending on the size of your SSD (mine is only 256GB).
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on March 29, 2015, 02:13:49 AM
Just posting my potential new comp specs here to get peoples opinion on it before i buy it.


(Optional) means it had different options originally but i changed them to what they are now.
4.0GHz Intel Core i7 4790 Quad Core / Eight Threaded Turbo Processor (Optional)
memory: 16GB - Kingston DDR3 1600MHz (Optional)
Hard drive: 2TB Hard Drive + 120GB SSD - Seagate Barracuda & Kingston V300 (Optional)
Graphics: Intel HD 4600
Onboard intel HD graphics: 2GB EVGA Nvidia GeForce GT 740 Graphics Card (Was optional)
6 USB ports :)
Warrenty: 3Years

Main thing im deciding on is if i should have a 2TB hard-drive with a 120GB SDD or just get a 2TB and save myself 50 quid as i do not understand much on a SDD.
Price around 630 pounds > 950 dollar

Took me quite awhile to research everything before i came up with this set-up so feedback needed, im not building it so it has limited options and as far as price goes i do not want to spend any more then this.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 02:38:18 AM
Just posting my potential new comp specs here to get peoples opinion on it before i buy it.


(Optional) means it had different options originally but i changed them to what they are now.
4.0GHz Intel Core i7 4790 Quad Core / Eight Threaded Turbo Processor (Optional)
memory: 16GB - Kingston DDR3 1600MHz (Optional)
Hard drive: 2TB Hard Drive + 120GB SSD - Seagate Barracuda & Kingston V300 (Optional)
Graphics: Intel HD 4600
Onboard intel HD graphics: 2GB EVGA Nvidia GeForce GT 740 Graphics Card (Was optional)
6 USB ports :)
Warrenty: 3Years

Main thing im deciding on is if i should have a 2TB hard-drive with a 120GB SDD or just get a 2TB and save myself 50 quid as i do not understand much on a SDD.
Price around 630 pounds > 950 dollar

Took me quite awhile to research everything before i came up with this set-up so feedback needed, im not building it so it has limited options and as far as price goes i do not want to spend any more then this.

From what I understand an SSD is, more or less, optional. Mostly you just need those eight components I posted above, and if you have extra money to spend, use it on an SSD. Otherwise, I'd opt out until you got your rig optimized at the specs you want. As far as the rest, I am still learning myself, so I cannot rightly say what's what.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on March 29, 2015, 02:44:48 AM
From what I understand an SSD is, more or less, optional. Mostly you just need those eight components I posted above, and if you have extra money to spend, use it on an SSD. Otherwise, I'd opt out until you got your rig optimized at the specs you want. As far as the rest, I am still learning myself, so I cannot rightly say what's what.
Thanks for the info on the sdd, from my understanding it is not that usefull considering their size, they are alot quicker at reading/righting and have an average life of around 150 years, but they can not be repeaired easily.
However you pay 3x more per gig then you do with a normal HDD.
so ima probly skip it and go for a 3TB instead of 2TB and a small SDD, and it comes out around 30 quid cheaper.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MrMarooca on March 29, 2015, 02:55:49 AM
Thanks for the info on the sdd, from my understanding it is not that usefull considering their size, they are alot quicker at reading/righting and have an average life of around 150 years, but they can not be repeaired easily.
However you pay 3x more per gig then you do with a normal HDD.
so ima probly skip it and go for a 3TB instead of 2TB and a small SDD, and it comes out around 30 quid cheaper.
While it is optional, and some may consider it unnecessary,
I'd still reccomend even a super small SSD (~60GB) just for the OS. It will not only boot faster, but will also make generally everything you do with your OS faster. What would usually take me about 45 secs to fully boot the desktop without an SSD takes me around 15 secs with one.
It's nice if you're impatient, like me ;)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Craig on March 29, 2015, 03:36:45 AM
I'd still reccomend even a super small SSD (~60GB) just for the OS. It will not only boot faster, but will also make generally everything you do with your OS faster. What would usually take me about 45 secs to fully boot the desktop without an SSD takes me around 15 secs with one.
I would too. But I'd recommend a 100GB SSD. It not only makes rebooting very fast, but there are a lot of O/S files that are constantly being read from during normal operation of the PC and the faster these files can be read, the faster everything else runs. The registry is the best example. I'd always go with an SSD now, it really helps.

If you do go with the SDD, because they are usually 100GB or less, it's very important not to fill it up with software installs. The OS really needs a good 50GB free on the SSD to maximize performacne.

The SSD is usually partitioned as the C:.
So whenever you install software on the PC (other than windows itself), always change the install drive to your standard HDD (usually D:), so the SSD is not filled up unnecessarily.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on March 29, 2015, 03:48:25 AM
I would too
Does it make a noticeable different in every day tasks, im not impatient enough to want to shave off a few secs of the boot up, so with that in mind is it still worth getting a 120GB SDD? If so ill get a 2TB + 120 SDD instead of a 3TB HDD

Also machine will be mainly used for HD editing/recording, my current comp does it fine now but im sure a comp 4-5 times better will make everything run alot smoother, Atleast thats what im hoping for XD
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Craig on March 29, 2015, 03:54:25 AM
Does it make a noticeable different in every day tasks
I updated my post with more details, but in short, yes it does also help with normal running.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 04:08:58 AM
I would too. But I'd recommend a 100GB SSD. It not only makes rebooting very fast, but there are a lot of O/S files that are constantly being read from during normal operation of the PC and the faster these files can be read, the faster everything else runs. The registry is the best example. I'd always go with an SSD now, it really helps.

If you do go with the SDD, because they are usually 100GB or less, it's very important not to fill it up with software installs. The OS really needs a good 50GB free on the SSD to maximize performacne.

The SSD is usually partitioned as the C:.
So whenever you install software on the PC (other than windows itself), always change the install drive to your standard HDD (usually D:), so the SSD is not filled up unnecessarily.
So even though an SSD is optional, it likely will help the O/S in every way as far as speed and boot speed. But, as you posted, you should always leave about half of the memory open to maximize the performance? (I.e since the SSD you mentioned was 100gb and you mentioned leaving about 50 gb free for the O/S) So since it is optional, if it's a first time computer being built...it wouldn't be detrimental to leave it out until more funds can be spent on a good one? I do want an SSD for my rig eventually, but I would rather span the price over a period of time. Rather than spending a large sum all at once.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Craig on March 29, 2015, 04:30:01 AM
So even though an SSD is optional, it likely will help the O/S in every way as far as speed and boot speed. But, as you posted, you should always leave about half of the memory open to maximize the performance? (I.e since the SSD you mentioned was 100gb and you mentioned leaving about 50 gb free for the O/S) So since it is optional, if it's a first time computer being built...it wouldn't be detrimental to leave it out until more funds can be spent on a good one? I do want an SSD for my rig eventually, but I would rather span the price over a period of time. Rather than spending a large sum all at once.
I think the SSD is only worthwhile as a dedicated O/S partition. So as long as you don't mind changing the O/S installation from the HDD to the SSD later when you're ready, then you'll be good to add it later. For people who aren't comfortable changing the O/S installation, I'd recommend getting the SSD up front.

About the free space, 50/50 is a good balance. If you really need to squeeze it, I'd say you'd be ok with 10-20GB free, but personally I wouldn't let it get below 20GB free.

Also, in my post above, I mentioned the registry as a good example, but thinking about that, it's possible the entire registry is always cached in RAM while the PC is running, so maybe it's not a good example after all. But I'm sure there are plenty of other O/S files that are constantly used and not cached.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 04:49:40 AM
I think the SSD is only worthwhile as a dedicated O/S partition. So as long as you don't mind changing the O/S installation from the HDD to the SSD later when you're ready, then you'll be good to add it later. For people who aren't comfortable changing the O/S installation, I'd recommend getting the SSD up front.

About the free space, 50/50 is a good balance. If you really need to squeeze it, I'd say you'd be ok with 10-20GB free, but personally I wouldn't let it get below 20GB free.

Also, in my post above, I mentioned the registry as a good example, but thinking about that, it's possible the entire registry is always cached in RAM while the PC is running, so maybe it's not a good example after all. But I'm sure there are plenty of other O/S files that are constantly used and not cached.
Alright so, getting it starting off would be wiser than waiting? I mean, I'd hate to use more money too soon...but if it's easier on the installation process, why not?

I think I'll stick with 50/50, I'd rather not test the limits of my new rig right away. Not until I understand how all the components work with  each other properly. I'd rather play it safe, than screw something up in the long run. So 50/50 is a safe bet, thanks for that advice.

So the RAM is the main component then in that example? And alright, I'll see what this O/S will do when I start working on my PC. If the RAM is where it's cached (the entire registry you mentioned) I suppose a proper RAM needs to be installed as well. Just in case? Again, still learning so pardon my lack of knowledge, Craig. :)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Craig on March 29, 2015, 05:33:16 AM
Alright so, getting it starting off would be wiser than waiting? I mean, I'd hate to use more money too soon...but if it's easier on the installation process, why not?
It's a trade off between ease and cost. If you don't want to spend the extra money on the SSD right away, then don't, just know that later when you do buy the SSD, someone will have to move the O/S from your HDD to your new SSD. I've never done this myself so I can't say how hard it is to do, or if it is more complicated than a fresh install of the O/S. Also I guess Windows vs Apple vs Linux etc will each involve different knowledge on how to best do it.

So the RAM is the main component then in that example? And alright, I'll see what this O/S will do when I start working on my PC. If the RAM is where it's cached (the entire registry you mentioned) I suppose a proper RAM needs to be installed as well. Just in case? Again, still learning so pardon my lack of knowledge, Craig. :)[/font][/i]
Don't worry about what I said about the RAM, it doesn't affect what components you buy or how the computer is setup.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 05:37:33 AM
It's a trade off between ease and cost. If you don't want to spend the extra money on the SSD right away, then don't, just know that later when you do buy the SSD, someone will have to move the O/S from your HDD to your new SSD. I've never done this myself so I can't say how hard it is to do, or if it is more complicated than a fresh install of the O/S. Also I guess Windows vs Apple vs Linux etc will each involve different knowledge on how to best do it.

I am sticking with Windows. And okay, so I think I'd rather spend more and install the SSD right away rather than later. I would like to learn how to do this process, but I think starting off it would be better to stay simple.

Don't worry about what I said about the RAM, it doesn't affect what components you buy or how the computer is setup.
Oh okay, I appreciate the advice on this so far.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Nefty on March 29, 2015, 10:18:23 AM
Not a big fan of reddit, Con. I've used them before on different topics and the sources were always inaccurate and misleading.

My friend Matt and I built his PC using r/buildapc and his works great so I haven't had a problem with it. You just need the right help.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 29, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
You might find this interesting http://ssdendurancetest.com/

From what I know they arent unreliable at all, but like HDD's some might last 10 years others a year lol technology can be unpredictable.

that site is rather confusing to read ^_^, that's probly just me tho.

googling around I can find sites ranging form there fail rate is bad, to its inconclusive, to SSDs outlast harddrives by 2x. (but also as you said based on maker, intel/samsung seems to be the best for SSD)

finding more sites that look more technical tho. it seems they are no where near as bad as they used to be, but, some still have terrible fail rates, as well as chances of fail form random things. for exp, some, the power going out could mean a total fail of the ssd. batt back up can help, but I have been in more then one power outage that lasted longer then my batt back ups.

it also sounds like they suffer form an internal memory leak. that the more they are used the ever so tiny bit slower they get, not noticeable at first but as time goes on (years) they get much slower is what I am reading.

There is a consensus tho over the sites I have seen, HDD/SSD, has ZERO impact on FPS for video games. it only effects load times, and I perosnaly don't see an issue with load times or even notice them on a HDD.

for me, I just don't see a reason yet to get an ssd, I don't notice load times for games, os still boots just finely fast for me, most games for me are also rather large (as I play mostly RPGs). I don't notice the OS slowing any thing down.

the way I see it, is there ment for super fast load times, but besides the OS what is it gona be used for? I keep reading they shoudlent be used for day to day writes (because that increases fail rate drastically). so I am just paying extra for a faster load time on the OS?
looking at sites like newegg, even the best rated SSDs have a large amount of "failed after 3-6 months".
that's a concern to me, expaicly for the money.

I want to like SSDs, but because of price and fail rates still. I am gona have to pass on them for now. ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 03:20:53 PM
My friend Matt and I built his PC using r/buildapc and his works great so I haven't had a problem with it. You just need the right help.

Oh you're most definitely right, Nefty. Problem is weeding through all the BS to get to the information. :/ I may try again at some point, see if I can figure out some new info from the site.

that site is rather confusing to read ^_^, that's probly just me tho.

googling around I can find sites ranging form there fail rate is bad, to its inconclusive, to SSDs outlast harddrives by 2x. (but also as you said based on maker, intel/samsung seems to be the best for SSD)

finding more sites that look more technical tho. it seems they are no where near as bad as they used to be, but, some still have terrible fail rates, as well as chances of fail form random things. for exp, some, the power going out could mean a total fail of the ssd. batt back up can help, but I have been in more then one power outage that lasted longer then my batt back ups.

it also sounds like they suffer form an internal memory leak. that the more they are used the ever so tiny bit slower they get, not noticeable at first but as time goes on (years) they get much slower is what I am reading.

There is a consensus tho over the sites I have seen, HDD/SSD, has ZERO impact on FPS for video games. it only effects load times, and I perosnaly don't see an issue with load times or even notice them on a HDD.

for me, I just don't see a reason yet to get an ssd, I don't notice load times for games, os still boots just finely fast for me, most games for me are also rather large (as I play mostly RPGs). I don't notice the OS slowing any thing down.

the way I see it, is there ment for super fast load times, but besides the OS what is it gona be used for? I keep reading they shoudlent be used for day to day writes (because that increases fail rate drastically). so I am just paying extra for a faster load time on the OS?
looking at sites like newegg, even the best rated SSDs have a large amount of "failed after 3-6 months".
that's a concern to me, expaicly for the money.

I want to like SSDs, but because of price and fail rates still. I am gona have to pass on them for now. ^_^

Yeah Agy they are TOTALLY optional, but after some research a lot of folks REALLY stand by them. They are like a Mandatory optional at this point, and some do last a while. The issue is heating it seems, even with a system that is custom built...apparently over heating can happen. Even if one is not overclocking any of their components, too much power and energy can do it regardless. Some SSD's supposedly can do this. Apparently, if the SSD draws more power, it dissipates more heat. I'm still doing more research on the matter, but from what I hear they are worth it. Not just from the other forum members, but professional PC builders. They say with a decent RAM, an SSD is the number one most noticeable upgrade a person can get. But it's still entirely up to you what you wish to do with it. I am merely doing it for mine to save me time and issues on installing it later. And taking advice from Craig's early post.

RANDOM TIP! Power Supplies. If there is one thing you should NOT scrimp on when it comes to investing in a new rig, it's the power supply. Because without that NOTHING works, obviously. So it's best to not go cheap on these. I've heard Corsair has great power supplies.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 05:11:58 PM
Jack's Gaming Rig(Beginning)

Below is what I've decided to stick with, but with a minor adjustment I will mention at the bottom.

Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ($90)

CPU

AMD FX-6300 6-Core ($100)

RAM

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz ($65)

Graphics Card

EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC ACX 2.0+ 2GB ($210)

Hard Drive

WD Blue 1 TB ($50)

Optical Drive

Asus 24x DVD Burner ($21)

Case

Rosewill Challenger ATX Mid Tower ($57)

Power Supply

Corsair Builder Series CX 500 Watt ($58)


Total Cost: $651 (USD)

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Graphics Card(Change)
Instead of an EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC ACX 2.0+ 2GB I may get this EVGA GeForce GTX 750Ti with G-SYNC Support 2GB GDDR5 128bit, Dual-Link, DVI-I, HDMI, DP Graphics Card as it runs almost as good for about 70 bucks cheaper.

Modified Total Cost: $580.99 (USD)

Found out, with my modified Graphics Card and the prices on Amazon, the total would be around $555.44 USD. Which is not bad from the supposed power and capabilities of this PC.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 29, 2015, 06:33:03 PM
Oh you're most definitely right, Nefty. Problem is weeding through all the BS to get to the information. :/ I may try again at some point, see if I can figure out some new info from the site.

Yeah Agy they are TOTALLY optional, but after some research a lot of folks REALLY stand by them. They are like a Mandatory optional at this point, and some do last a while. The issue is heating it seems, even with a system that is custom built...apparently over heating can happen. Even if one is not overclocking any of their components, too much power and energy can do it regardless. Some SSD's supposedly can do this. Apparently, if the SSD draws more power, it dissipates more heat. I'm still doing more research on the matter, but from what I hear they are worth it. Not just from the other forum members, but professional PC builders. They say with a decent RAM, an SSD is the number one most noticeable upgrade a person can get. But it's still entirely up to you what you wish to do with it. I am merely doing it for mine to save me time and issues on installing it later. And taking advice from Craig's early post.

RANDOM TIP! Power Supplies. If there is one thing you should NOT scrimp on when it comes to investing in a new rig, it's the power supply. Because without that NOTHING works, obviously. So it's best to not go cheap on these. I've heard Corsair has great power supplies.


I honestly didn't see any heat issues with SSD, the 2 things that stood out for me for there fail rates were interrupt in power supply (lolwut). and just to much usage.
besides a faster boot time (dispte what craig says about it effecting everything). I just don't see it since it has zero impact on video game performance aside form load times, and load times are lighting quick already for me with an old HDD.

hopfuly in a few years they will get better tho and come down in price more ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 06:48:08 PM
I honestly didn't see any heat issues with SSD, the 2 things that stood out for me for there fail rates were interrupt in power supply (lolwut). and just to much usage.
besides a faster boot time (dispte what craig says about it effecting everything). I just don't see it since it has zero impact on video game performance aside form load times, and load times are lighting quick already for me with an old HDD.

hopfuly in a few years they will get better tho and come down in price more ^_^

Might just stick with an HDD then, instead of a SSD. I am still debating myself now. :P Some say one thing, and then others say another thing. Confusing at times.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MrMarooca on March 29, 2015, 07:09:36 PM
This is my build:
16GB RAM
Intel i7
GTX 970 4GB
ASRock Z97 Extreme6/ac
250GB SSD/1TB HDD

Pics:

(http://i.imgur.com/8HCMV8L.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tBKll8B.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FpyFKki.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZHfjFmo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9w954YD.jpg)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 07:13:27 PM
This is my build:
16GB RAM
Intel i7
GTX 970 4GB
ASRock Z97 Extreme6/ac
250GB SSD/1TB HDD

Pics:

(http://i.imgur.com/8HCMV8L.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tBKll8B.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FpyFKki.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZHfjFmo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9w954YD.jpg)

How well does it run for you? And if you don't mind me asking, how much did it set you back? If you remember.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 29, 2015, 07:20:44 PM
Might just stick with an HDD then, instead of a SSD. I am still debating myself now. :P Some say one thing, and then others say another thing. Confusing at times.

the most funny stuff I was reading were things like "SSD have no moving parts, so they last ifnfitnly longer then HDD"...........lol XD

but it was writing as "fanboy" stuff and agy laughed as such.

the only real reason for it failing where both power loss (because fo the way some are built). and also usage because of the way all are built, it doesint handle rewriting of information well. something to do with the way the meoery cells are each time they are rewritin it makes them smaller? or something (I am nto a tech exspert). so each tiem the information was rewritten it increased the chance for fail rate. and unlike HDDs, there is zero warning of a fail for SSD. (I also notice most only have a 3 year warranty, as opsieod to an HDDs 5 year warrenty. that says something to me right there).

don't know, never used one. maybe if I did the world would turn to rainbows and there would be pice on earth. or maybe I just payed for a hyped pice of junk. or any thing in between ^_^.

all I know is, why am I paying the price of a higher end grpahics card for a drive that has a lot less room, "susposied" greater chance of fail, all for what can only be said is faster boot time, and "hypothetical" faster other things, whiel having zero impact on video game performance.

while a lto seems of speciulation there are some thigns that for sure seem concenses among people.

Pros: (gaunrted)
faster boot time.

Cons: (garented)
much more exp for a lot less room.


Pros: (hypothetical)
faster everything (tho no impact on FPS)

Cons: (hypothetical)
much greater fail rate for even mondain things like power loss.


Nutraul: (guarnted)
zero impact on performance of gaming, Same FPS over an SSD or HDD.

looking at just the for sures and nutral, it makes no sense to get an SSD (yet). for me personaly, granted, your exprinces may differ and agy supports going out there and finding things out on your own as jack has done ^_^!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MrMarooca on March 29, 2015, 07:21:55 PM
How well does it run for you? And if you don't mind me asking, how much did it set you back? If you remember.
It runs amazingly. It was mainly built for gaming, but it does game development/programming, video editing, streaming, recording, and many other things great. It averages about 120+ FPS on most games (sometimes more), and 60+ish on more resource intensive ones. IIRC, It set me back about $1,300 (the only reason I spent so much is because I received a small inheritance, and was in need of a major upgrade).
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MrMarooca on March 29, 2015, 07:25:07 PM
Cons: (hypothetical)
much greater fail rate for even mondain things like power loss.
From my experience, I've had many more HDD failures than SSD's. Last year my HDD failed about 3 times, and I lost about 5 months of programming work. To compensate for fail rates, most SSD's (that I've seen) come with pretty good warranties (3+ years).
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 07:27:56 PM
It runs amazingly. It was mainly built for gaming, but it does game development/programming, video editing, streaming, recording, and many other things great. It averages about 120+ FPS on most games (sometimes more), and 60+ish on more resource intensive ones. IIRC, It set me back about $1,300 (the only reason I spent so much is because I received a small inheritance, and was in need of a major upgrade).

Very nice, I'd say if you got the money then definitely go all out with the components! :) Sounds like a great PC, I also like that you can do game development and programming with it. Very interesting.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 29, 2015, 07:30:41 PM
From my experience, I've had many more HDD failures than SSD's. Last year my HDD failed about 3 times, and I lost about 5 months of programming work. To compensate for fail rates, most SSD's (that I've seen) come with pretty good warranties (3+ years).

thus it being under hypothetical ^_^

to me tho I see the 3 year warrnety on most SSDs, and then I see a 5 year warrenty on most HDDs. that to me means the companys are more sure of there lasting HDDs then SSDs.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Craig on March 29, 2015, 09:33:13 PM
I think it's worth mentioning about SSD failures, is that if a read fails, it doesn't just spit the dummy and quit, it keeps retrying the read until it succeeds, which it eventually will. So a failed read doesn't mean you lose your data, it just means it needs to try read the data more often so it can might take longer to eventually get the data. I've had my PC for almost 2 years now, and I'm not getting any SSD failures. SSD failures are caused by too many writes to the SSD, not too many reads, so if the SSD is used as an O/S partition and not used for general user files, that will keep the number of writes to a minimum, and mitigate the chance of SSD failures.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
I think it's worth mentioning about SSD failures, is that if a read fails, it doesn't just spit the dummy and quit, it keeps retrying the read until it succeeds, which it eventually will. So a failed read doesn't mean you lose your data, it just means it needs to try read the data more often so it can might take longer to eventually get the data. I've had my PC for almost 2 years now, and I'm not getting any SSD failures. SSD failures are caused by too many writes to the SSD, not too many reads, so if the SSD is used as an O/S partition and not used for general user files, that will keep the number of writes to a minimum, and mitigate the chance of SSD failures.
But you would only use a partition if you are running more than one O/S right? I figure if it were just one, you really wouldn't need the SSD anyway, at least not in this instance. Other than improved disk efficiency. But I may be wrong, I'm still looking into this whole entire category of components.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Craig on March 29, 2015, 10:11:00 PM
But you would only use a partition if you are running more than one O/S right? I figure if it were just one, you really wouldn't need the SSD anyway, at least not in this instance. Other than improved disk efficiency. But I may be wrong, I'm still looking into this whole entire category of components.
I am interchanging the word partition with drive. So I'm talking about using the SSD just to store the O/S and related files, say as the C:, and then your normal HDD would be the D:. So I'm not talking about partiioning the same drive into multiple partitions, sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 29, 2015, 10:19:03 PM
I am interchanging the word partition with drive. So I'm talking about using the SSD just to store the O/S and related files, say as the C:, and then your normal HDD would be the D:. So I'm not talking about partiioning the same drive into multiple partitions, sorry for the confusion.

Oh! Okay, my fault. I generalized the word to mean more than one O/S, but that makes sense now. That would actually be quite optimal, as far as speed for the C: drive. And using the HDD for the D: drive would help with preventing the SSD from becoming 'faulty'. I've been looking up some more information, like Agy, and it seems it's more favorable to have one than not. You essentially have to know how to handle it properly, otherwise bad things tend to happen to it. So I may just stick with the SSD and finally keep my mind set. lol I'll simply use it for the C: and O/S. Like you mentioned.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 29, 2015, 11:44:35 PM
since we are on about daul drives, when you have the os on the SSD, and a 2nd HDD.

where do things get writen to when you save something to desktop? does it go on the SSD or the HDD?? ^_^

also how big again for the OS? 100ish-G?

tho i still am nto sure its worth an extra 100+ for faster boat times ^_^, but agys always opened minded ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MrMarooca on March 30, 2015, 12:38:44 AM
since we are on about daul drives, when you have the os on the SSD, and a 2nd HDD.

where do things get writen to when you save something to desktop? does it go on the SSD or the HDD?? ^_^

also how big again for the OS? 100ish-G?

tho i still am nto sure its worth an extra 100+ for faster boat times ^_^, but agys always opened minded ^_^
Downloaded items will default to the drive the OS is installed on (if your OS is on an SSD it will go there), though you can almost always change this. And yes, around 100GB is enough.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 30, 2015, 09:29:15 AM
Downloaded items will default to the drive the OS is installed on (if your OS is on an SSD it will go there), though you can almost always change this. And yes, around 100GB is enough.

thank you ^_^

tho I slept on it and I think I will skip it for now. since its not gona be my personal pc I cant gaurnete that things wont go into the SSD all the time hehe XD

and the computer cant be down for 2+ weeks waiting for a return palicy. and with me not being able to gaunrete that the SSD will remain only the OS, I think its a no sadly for now.

theres also a wonder of whats gona happen when windows 10 comes out. if you do "free" update for it that means the SSD gona have to rewrite the whole OS and I don't like them odds ;D XD ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 30, 2015, 09:52:24 AM
thank you ^_^

tho I slept on it and I think I will skip it for now. since its not gona be my personal pc I cant gaurnete that things wont go into the SSD all the time hehe XD

and the computer cant be down for 2+ weeks waiting for a return palicy. and with me not being able to gaunrete that the SSD will remain only the OS, I think its a no sadly for now.

theres also a wonder of whats gona happen when windows 10 comes out. if you do "free" update for it that means the SSD gona have to rewrite the whole OS and I don't like them odds ;D XD ^_^
Well, if I can manage to get my rig going as yours is maybe we can compare and contrast with and without. Although, with totally different builds and O/S' I don't know how reliable the test would be. xD But we can always inform each other of what happens with and without. And I can tell you how it is to install a SSD, er...rather, a generalized idea. :P
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 30, 2015, 10:00:54 AM
Well, if I can manage to get my rig going as yours is maybe we can compare and contrast with and without. Although, with totally different builds and O/S' I don't know how reliable the test would be. xD But we can always inform each other of what happens with and without. And I can tell you how it is to install a SSD, er...rather, a generalized idea. :P

different OSes? I thought we were both gona have win 8? XD ^_^

installing the  SSD is nto an issue, its more of an I am worried that since its not gona be my computer (for people who don't know check out the other thread in general). that I cant gauanrte stuff wont be saved costintly to the desktop ot random places on the OS drive ^_^

theres also my concern of when windows 10 comes out the redoing of the SSD for it.
Tho, I guess I could just wait a few years with windows 8 and when I replace the SSD in 3 years or so just get windows 10 then. and a new SSD XD ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 30, 2015, 10:04:35 AM
different OSes? I thought we were both gona have win 8? XD ^_^

installing the  SSD is nto an issue, its more of an I am worried that since its not gona be my computer (for people who don't know check out the other thread in general). that I cant gauanrte stuff wont be saved costintly to the desktop ot random places on the OS drive ^_^

theres also my concern of when windows 10 comes out the redoing of the SSD for it.
Tho, I guess I could just wait a few years with windows 8 and when I replace the SSD in 3 years or so just get windows 10 then. and a new SSD XD ^_^

Oh that's right! My apologies. Well, I'd say do what your instincts are telling you, and the information you've uncovered so far. :) I'll let you know what's up with mine once I begin. :D
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 30, 2015, 11:47:48 PM
i know we keep goign over this but someone humor me.

still trying to justifi the SSD.

i get having the OS on the SSD, and having HDD for other stuff.

but, if its just the OS on the SSD.......then how exsactly am i improving my times for accesing the other stuff thats on the HDD??

i see where it improves boot time, but after that what exsactly is it doing to make things faster?

i think craig mentioned it improves things becuse windows is always doing stuff reguardless and becuse its on the SSD then it makes eveyr thign go faster.
but, for me rigth now every thing is about instantainies (except if i am doing somethign that takes up a ton (50%+ of my 12g) of my ram already).

if i set it up with the OS on the SSD, and every thign else (programs and such) on the HDD. am i just paying for faster boot time?

Edit: 2ndary question. i keep trying to look up about doing this and every so ofitn i see somethign about X program wont run unless its on the same drive as windows, but the info is exstreamly veage. is there any truth to this??

also how screwy are things gona be if i set up a new pc with an SSD os and an HDD for every thign else. and move over aplications and programs and such to the new HDD. am i gona run into crazy problems? (its been forever since i have done somethign lie that, and with this set up i am worryed XD)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on March 31, 2015, 12:38:25 AM
i know we keep goign over this but someone humor me.

still trying to justifi the SSD.

i get having the OS on the SSD, and having HDD for other stuff.

but, if its just the OS on the SSD.......then how exsactly am i improving my times for accesing the other stuff thats on the HDD??

i see where it improves boot time, but after that what exsactly is it doing to make things faster?

i think craig mentioned it improves things becuse windows is always doing stuff reguardless and becuse its on the SSD then it makes eveyr thign go faster.
but, for me rigth now every thing is about instantainies (except if i am doing somethign that takes up a ton (50%+ of my 12g) of my ram already).

if i set it up with the OS on the SSD, and every thign else (programs and such) on the HDD. am i just paying for faster boot time?

Edit: 2ndary question. i keep trying to look up about doing this and every so ofitn i see somethign about X program wont run unless its on the same drive as windows, but the info is exstreamly veage. is there any truth to this??

also how screwy are things gona be if i set up a new pc with an SSD os and an HDD for every thign else. and move over aplications and programs and such to the new HDD. am i gona run into crazy problems? (its been forever since i have done somethign lie that, and with this set up i am worryed XD)
Get a larger SSD, move over games and apps you use frequently.

a 250GB SSD can be had pretty cheap on sale and is well worth it, I am myself planning on a 500GB at somepoint and just using my other HDD's for storing movies and games I dont play to often.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 31, 2015, 12:01:35 PM
Edit: ignore this, i have a new post below reflecting updated samsunge SSD

the 2 i am interested in

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171999

doesint have that many reviews, but a lot of sites i see place it as one of if not the best in its class. its also cheaper and has a mind blowing 10 year warranty.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-193

its $100 more.........and half the storage as the first link, but it does get a ton of rave reviews. it also tho only has a 5 year warranty.

clearly the first one is silly better. but, i don't know much. so i am including both i was interested in.

was wondering what very one thought of both of them? thank you ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 31, 2015, 12:04:21 PM
the 2 i am interested in

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171999

doesint have that many reviews, but a lot of sites i see place it as one of if not the best in its class. its also cheaper and has a mind blowing 10 year warranty.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-193

its $100 more.........and half the storage as the first link, but it does get a ton of rave reviews. it also tho only has a 5 year warranty.

clearly the first one is silly better. but, i don't know much. so i am including both i was interested in.

was wondering what very one thought of both of them? thank you ^_^
One thing I WILL say, Samsung makes a good product. However, I do have a VERY reliable ( and inexpensive) SanDisk 16 GB USB Memory Stick that I would swear by. Even though it's a simple memory device. So I'd be conflicted with either of those two. :P
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 31, 2015, 01:05:45 PM
new linkys as i just found out samsunge has a much newer SSD drive that somehow, is bigger, faster, and a lot less money??

anywho, the 2 i am very intrested in.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171999
at #300 for 480. 10 year warrenty.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147361
the new 850 (as opsied to 840) pro. $270 for 512. 10 year warrenty (woot), and new 3-D Vertical node design ^_^

i am leaning to the 850 pro now. unless someone can tell me otherwise? ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on March 31, 2015, 02:57:27 PM
quick list, what am i missing??

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139022
case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236624
HDD for large things.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160177
monitor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832
GPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153198
PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0S6-003U-00013
run of the mill speakers ("wait what agy?" you may ask, remmber this is nto my personal computer)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126094
wireless mouse/keyboard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101339
back up for 4/1 printer (its accors the room so it needs its own)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842102134
main computer back up

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231569
ram,.............yes thats overkill, yes i mistrust ram. (12G is not enough!!! so we go for da more!!!!)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130770
MB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369
proccseor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416712
OS

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416581
office

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135247
optical drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147361
SSD drive ("WAIT WHAT AGY!?!?!?!?!" you may say. if i wasint unnecessarily complicated i woudlet be able to call my self female any more. ^_^)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882678028
displayport cable for monitor to graphics card. (why is it 15ft?)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812123282
sata cables (yes purale)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA25V1UK3058
dat 4 in 1 printer.
("what!?!?!", again its not my computer........) ^_^

in short
I7 4th gen, 4.0 ghz blah
32G ram ("what!?!?!")
SSD and HDD
970gtx navida cardy.
yarr'ness.

Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 31, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
I think you pretty much have everything, Agy. Anyone else want to double check, see if Agy missed anything?
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 02, 2015, 10:54:02 AM
Even after my current build, I am debating on whether I want to change the case or not. But if I do, I may have to change some components. As the selection I have now may not fit the new case.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 02, 2015, 11:29:40 AM
Even after my current build, I am debating on whether I want to change the case or not. But if I do, I may have to change some components. As the selection I have now may not fit the new case.

while i dont have it in my hands yet, i really love the case i linked earlyer, its rather exp. but it looks BA and on paper its amazing ^_^
i hope ti find out soon ^_^

witch leads into my next.

i ordered da coimputer i had listed. i did add an aditional part tho

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
as the after market CPU fan.

normaly i am fine with stock CPU fans, and honsitly unless your doing somethign stupid like OC'ing, you dont need more then the stock fan.

however in my case, the I7 i got there seems to be a lot of peopel saying the CPU runs hot even with otu OCing.
so i figuered it was worth the extra money to keep it cooler then the stock fan.

anywho. i ordered it all..........and natruly ran into a ton of issues. mostly to due with the cardet card company thought it was a no-no purches.......so i spent an hour fixing that online XD
then of course tho the order is canceld already and i coudlent resubmit it. so i had to break it into smaller parts.
anywho it took multi hours of stupid to get it all threw. i was able to get the info i needed to get acces to the credit card issuers bank (not my card natruly XD). and i could see nothign was wrong past the first suspcie activty alert they gave. so i think it was the site. but honistly this is the first time i have ver had an issue with newegg. any other time they have been amazing.
i emailed them and to my suprise i got an anwer back form a real person in under an hour.
anywho, long story short it appers eveyr thign is ordered now........granted in liek 8 boxes now XD

anywho. i hope to get pics of it when it arrives ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 02, 2015, 12:33:41 PM
while i dont have it in my hands yet, i really love the case i linked earlyer, its rather exp. but it looks BA and on paper its amazing ^_^
i hope ti find out soon ^_^

witch leads into my next.

i ordered da coimputer i had listed. i did add an aditional part tho

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
as the after market CPU fan.

normaly i am fine with stock CPU fans, and honsitly unless your doing somethign stupid like OC'ing, you dont need more then the stock fan.

however in my case, the I7 i got there seems to be a lot of peopel saying the CPU runs hot even with otu OCing.
so i figuered it was worth the extra money to keep it cooler then the stock fan.

anywho. i ordered it all..........and natruly ran into a ton of issues. mostly to due with the cardet card company thought it was a no-no purches.......so i spent an hour fixing that online XD
then of course tho the order is canceld already and i coudlent resubmit it. so i had to break it into smaller parts.
anywho it took multi hours of stupid to get it all threw. i was able to get the info i needed to get acces to the credit card issuers bank (not my card natruly XD). and i could see nothign was wrong past the first suspcie activty alert they gave. so i think it was the site. but honistly this is the first time i have ver had an issue with newegg. any other time they have been amazing.
i emailed them and to my suprise i got an anwer back form a real person in under an hour.
anywho, long story short it appers eveyr thign is ordered now........granted in liek 8 boxes now XD

anywho. i hope to get pics of it when it arrives ^_^

So you definitely made sure to order EVERYTHING at once right? That way, if one part does not work you can send it back and get a replacement. Nothing worse than spanning a build over months and months, only to buy a part you bought first and it not work. THEN you have to buy a totally new one since you can't send the old one back after having it for so long. :/
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 02, 2015, 12:43:38 PM
So you definitely made sure to order EVERYTHING at once right? That way, if one part does not work you can send it back and get a replacement. Nothing worse than spanning a build over months and months, only to buy a part you bought first and it not work. THEN you have to buy a totally new one since you can't send the old one back after having it for so long. :/

yes every thing is ordered now (as far as i can tell).

yea i wanted to make sure to get every thing, i wanted ti all as one order, but idk both the credit card company and newegg are to blame for that debocail XD

most of it is beign shiped now, the others are being packed. and one/two things are still waiitng verifcation.

i should have it all sometime next week ^_^
i made sure to get 3 year warrentys for everything including acidental damage. ^_^
(yes i am awear exstended warrenty are nothing but a cash cow for bisunes. but knowing my luck somethign will go wrong and i will need it XD, most of it was decently priced for 3 years, the warrenty on the GPU was a lot tho.)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 02, 2015, 12:54:39 PM
yes every thing is ordered now (as far as i can tell).

yea i wanted to make sure to get every thing, i wanted ti all as one order, but idk both the credit card company and newegg are to blame for that debocail XD

most of it is beign shiped now, the others are being packed. and one/two things are still waiitng verifcation.

i should have it all sometime next week ^_^
i made sure to get 3 year warrentys for everything including acidental damage. ^_^
(yes i am awear exstended warrenty are nothing but a cash cow for bisunes. but knowing my luck somethign will go wrong and i will need it XD, most of it was decently priced for 3 years, the warrenty on the GPU was a lot tho.)

No that's perfect actually. NEVER take chances on a computer. As easy as it sounds to assemble (to a degree) it's still fragile parts. And definitely remember to only take out parts you want to install, otherwise I'd keep em packaged till then. OH! And touch something metal to discharge yourself from static electricity.  Otherwise, you should be good to go after all is said and done! ^-^ AND TAKE PICTURES!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 02, 2015, 01:06:00 PM
No that's perfect actually. NEVER take chances on a computer. As easy as it sounds to assemble (to a degree) it's still fragile parts. And definitely remember to only take out parts you want to install, otherwise I'd keep em packaged till then. OH! And touch something metal to discharge yourself from static electricity.  Otherwise, you should be good to go after all is said and done! ^-^ AND TAKE PICTURES!

agy knows, whos the girl who has built 2 already ;D ^_^

yea i build them on a real wood table to help prevent static, as well as there being no rug in the room. ^_^

and yes i hope to take tons of pictures of every thing both in the boxes, and building, and when its all set up ^_^ just dont excpet any picutres of my hulk hands! ^_^ (serueisly comtinplates getting toy hulk hands now just for this thread).
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 02, 2015, 01:23:24 PM
agy knows, whos the girl who has built 2 already ;D ^_^

yea i build them on a real wood table to help prevent static, as well as there being no rug in the room. ^_^

and yes i hope to take tons of pictures of every thing both in the boxes, and building, and when its all set up ^_^ just dont excpet any picutres of my hulk hands! ^_^ (serueisly comtinplates getting toy hulk hands now just for this thread).

Oh! Well EXCUSE me then. ;3
Anyway, best of luck and let us know on the progress/any changes! I'll start letting folks know when I build mine ASAP. If anyone else needs help on a build or has questions, or just wants to brag about their build/show pictures, feel free to post!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 02, 2015, 01:30:07 PM
Oh! Well EXCUSE me then. ;3
Anyway, best of luck and let us know on the progress/any changes! I'll start letting folks know when I build mine ASAP. If anyone else needs help on a build or has questions, or just wants to brag about their build/show pictures, feel free to post!


te-he we are cra cra ^_^, yes there shall be many picutres and much braging ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 02, 2015, 07:39:14 PM
every thing is shipped now, except for the printer >.>

its still saying waiting on order varafacation even after 24 hours. if it keeps up threw tommrow I will just buy the printer else where ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 02, 2015, 07:41:06 PM
every thing is shipped now, except for the printer >.>

its still saying waiting on order varafacation even after 24 hours. if it keeps up threw tommrow I will just buy the printer else where ^_^

Fortunately, it's not a required component to the PC. :D
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 02, 2015, 09:03:54 PM
Fortunately, it's not a required component to the PC. :D

no its not, but I cant use the ol printer with it because its basickly broken, just about. its complicated. it kinda needs a printer sadly before I can set it up XD

some parts arrived today, some will come in Monday ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: DiamondBack662 on April 02, 2015, 09:36:27 PM
Personal printers are starting to go the way of the floppy drive.. I've not bought one since I broke the last one around 7 years ago. Not once since then have I missed having one.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 02, 2015, 09:41:04 PM
Personal printers are starting to go the way of the floppy drive.. I've not bought one since I broke the last one around 7 years ago. Not once since then have I missed having one.

is not for agy or else I would giggle about it ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 03, 2015, 11:36:26 AM
ok about 95% of it will be in today, or so swears ups XD

moniator wont be in till monday.

and the dang printer still has not go threw yet. not sure if i flip a table at the end of today. or i wait till monday to flip a table?

o well ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 03, 2015, 11:39:49 AM
ok about 95% of it will be in today, or so swears ups XD

moniator wont be in till monday.

and the dang printer still has not go threw yet. not sure if i flip a table at the end of today. or i wait till monday to flip a table?

o well ^_^

Depends. If you are impatient, flip it immediately! If not, wait till later. lol
For the most part though, all the important stuff is coming in quick. Which is nice. :)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 03, 2015, 12:43:02 PM
Depends. If you are impatient, flip it immediately! If not, wait till later. lol
For the most part though, all the important stuff is coming in quick. Which is nice. :)


i know i am exstreamly impationcet.........just dont tell da Buddha! ^_^

hehe i am just chomping at the bits, becuse the fastist shiping they had for it was 3-5 days. so when ever it ships i still need to wait 3-5 bisnues days for it to show up. XD

i'm just bumed out that eveyr thign else went threw already, and they are just sitting on it waiting........its liek they know..........THEY KNOW!!!!! ^_^

Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: YoungSykotic182 on April 03, 2015, 02:37:13 PM
ok about 95% of it will be in today, or so swears ups XD

moniator wont be in till monday.

and the dang printer still has not go threw yet. not sure if i flip a table at the end of today. or i wait till monday to flip a table?

o well ^_^
Since Monday is the next business day I'd wait till then. Perhaps call.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 03, 2015, 02:50:36 PM
Since Monday is the next business day I'd wait till then. Perhaps call.

yea i know........i just wants it nows!!!! ^_^

monday will be bisnuess day #3. .....agy demands instant satisfaction! ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 04, 2015, 11:28:10 PM
well so I am guessing that company doesint want our money XD

today I loged on this morning to see that it was honsitly still in "order verification". w/e I was gona wait till Monday to coancel it anyway since it was ricducleues they where taking so long to get their act together.

loged on just now and the order is not even there any more..........yes they droped the order (not newegg, the 3rd party seller on new egg)...........so fudge them I say. will take our money else where. XD ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 05, 2015, 11:33:56 AM
Good news and bad news today. Bad News is, my Power supply is dying on my PC. Good news is, I found a rather cheap (but supposedly effective) replacement power supply for my HP s5123w. Hopefully they get the order right and nothing else goes wrong. I was lucky the noises coming from my computer were not the Hard Drive failing. Here's hoping this fixes it.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 06, 2015, 01:12:53 PM
Good news and bad news today. Bad News is, my Power supply is dying on my PC. Good news is, I found a rather cheap (but supposedly effective) replacement power supply for my HP s5123w. Hopefully they get the order right and nothing else goes wrong. I was lucky the noises coming from my computer were not the Hard Drive failing. Here's hoping this fixes it.

nice, your lucky you had a warning. last time i got a psu (before the aweosme thermaltech one i have now). it gave no warning, it simply died, and didnt even last a year XD

needless to say agy stays away from unknown cheaper names now XD ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 07, 2015, 04:18:41 AM
Indeed, never cheap out on the PSU.

the first computer I built for my friend, he refused to spend extra on the PSU I warned him over and over but nope.

Guess who had to replace his computers motherboard,cpu,ram and psu? there's a reason the no name brand psu's are so cheap >~<

Not to mention, a solid high quality psu can be used for years and even in your next computer build!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 07, 2015, 08:57:26 AM
Indeed, never cheap out on the PSU.

the first computer I built for my friend, he refused to spend extra on the PSU I warned him over and over but nope.

Guess who had to replace his computers motherboard,cpu,ram and psu? there's a reason the no name brand psu's are so cheap >~<

Not to mention, a solid high quality psu can be used for years and even in your next computer build!

Oh naturally, there is hardly an area on a PC that you should cheap out on. Most are quality products as is, but you do have those 'Off Brand' mystery products for a bargain. Should you ignore me and use them? Sure. Would I recommend them and say they are better than name brand quality components? No. I would not chance RAM or a Motherboard...or anything really. Even the Power Supply Unit should not be scrimped on. Shell out a little bit more and you'll be happy. This is what I've learned so far. :) So I agree with Kitty.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 07, 2015, 04:45:33 PM
Oh naturally, there is hardly an area on a PC that you should cheap out on. Most are quality products as is, but you do have those 'Off Brand' mystery products for a bargain. Should you ignore me and use them? Sure. Would I recommend them and say they are better than name brand quality components? No. I would not chance RAM or a Motherboard...or anything really. Even the Power Supply Unit should not be scrimped on. Shell out a little bit more and you'll be happy. This is what I've learned so far. :) So I agree with Kitty.

agy likes MSI and thermaltech ^_^

memeroy I don't know a brand name for.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 07, 2015, 06:32:31 PM
agy likes MSI and thermaltech ^_^

memeroy I don't know a brand name for.

Oh yes, I heard the MSI 990FXA-GD80V2 Motherboard (AMD AM3+, SB950, ATX, 32 GB DDR3) is really good for it's price. Which I think is at $182.98 on Amazon. So I agree, still learning though.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 07, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Oh yes, I heard the MSI 990FXA-GD80V2 Motherboard (AMD AM3+, SB950, ATX, 32 GB DDR3) is really good for it's price. Which I think is at $182.98 on Amazon. So I agree, still learning though.

yea I always liked MSI for MB, I used to use gigabyte for video cards, but I like MSI more now ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 07, 2015, 07:49:02 PM
yea I always liked MSI for MB, I used to use gigabyte for video cards, but I like MSI more now ^_^

Do you have a favored Graphics card too?
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 07, 2015, 07:59:14 PM
Do you have a favored Graphics card too?

I like the MSI ones ^_^, navida with out a question ^_^

never used an radeon before, I never had an issue with navida ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 07, 2015, 08:05:31 PM
I like the MSI ones ^_^, navida with out a question ^_^

never used an radeon before, I never had an issue with navida ^_^
Definitely NVIDIA. I have one on this PC, it's the NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430. Not quite powerful enough to play certain games, but it does the job when need be. Only issue is, I can't upgrade the graphics card for this Slim Line. The only thing I could do is get a Low-Profile. But I need a TOTAL overhaul on the Graphics Card. So, being that this system cannot be changed at all (Minus the Low-Pro Graphics card, and the PSU) I am going to inevitably build my own! Hence this topic. :P But you knew that already. lol
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 07, 2015, 08:10:29 PM
Definitely NVIDIA. I have one on this PC, it's the NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430. Not quite powerful enough to play certain games, but it does the job when need be. Only issue is, I can't upgrade the graphics card for this Slim Line. The only thing I could do is get a Low-Profile. But I need a TOTAL overhaul on the Graphics Card. So, being that this system cannot be changed at all (Minus the Low-Pro Graphics card, and the PSU) I am going to inevitably build my own! Hence this topic. :P But you knew that already. lol

da big build!!!!! ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 08, 2015, 12:39:53 AM
da big build!!!!! ^_^
Another question for Da Agy, or anyone who wishes to answer. What's a good monitor to buy as well? Something that isn't over the top CRAZY expensive, but has a nice picture to it.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 08, 2015, 01:55:48 AM
Another question for Da Agy, or anyone who wishes to answer. What's a good monitor to buy as well? Something that isn't over the top CRAZY expensive, but has a nice picture to it.
Depends on your budget and what you are looking for, 1080p? 1440p? 4K? Ultra wide monitors? a fast responsive 144HZ monitor or a pretty 60HZ IPS monitor?
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 08, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
Depends on your budget and what you are looking for, 1080p? 1440p? 4K? Ultra wide monitors? a fast responsive 144HZ monitor or a pretty 60HZ IPS monitor?
This is another area that I have very little experience in. I have a some what...old monitor. And let's just say it's from right around the beginning of flat screen computer monitors. I am not sure entirely about 1080p and the like. I essentially need something to update this older monitor. Anything that makes the picture look nice and run smoothly.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 08, 2015, 02:22:42 AM
This is another area that I have very little experience in. I have a some what...old monitor. And let's just say it's from right around the beginning of flat screen computer monitors. I am not sure entirely about 1080p and the like. I essentially need something to update this older monitor. Anything that makes the picture look nice and run smoothly.
I have this one myself and plan on getting ultrawide soon (this year hopefully) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305

a cheap 1080p replacement (IPS but a bit smaller, very cheap tho) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009484

otherwise just shop around, find out what you want and how much your willing to spend.

(also not recommending or endorsing newegg, just an easy place to find products)

A monitor is usually an investment as they can last your for extremely long periods of time ans typically ythe more you spend (in a way) they more you get (kinda like gpus) of course there are always exceptions.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 08, 2015, 02:29:34 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1GC2203 I'm personally planning on an ultrawide like this, but with freesync support hopefully.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 08, 2015, 02:31:16 AM
I have this one myself and plan on getting ultrawide soon (this year hopefully) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305

a cheap 1080p replacement (IPS but a bit smaller, very cheap tho) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009484

otherwise just shop around, find out what you want and how much your willing to spend.

(also not recommending or endorsing newegg, just an easy place to find products)

A monitor is usually an investment as they can last your for extremely long periods of time ans typically ythe more you spend (in a way) they more you get (kinda like gpus) of course there are always exceptions.

Now, one irrefutable fact about most PC savvy folks is this: They all swear by ASUS products. That monitor, the first, looks really nice. Seems like it has everything I would need, mind you the second one by Acer is not bad too. I think I'd shell out a little more for the ASUS. Thanks for these two links though, it's nice to see some of the differences in monitors.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 08, 2015, 02:40:56 AM
Now, one irrefutable fact about most PC savvy folks is this: They all swear by ASUS products. That monitor, the first, looks really nice. Seems like it has everything I would need, mind you the second one by Acer is not bad too. I think I'd shell out a little more for the ASUS. Thanks for these two links though, it's nice to see some of the differences in monitors.
ahh, I'm a bit of an Asus fangirl, I have an asus phone, laptop and monitor :P (Zenphone 5) I try only to recommend things I have experience using because well...why recommend stuff you have never used? well of course thats a bit silly but hopefully you get my point.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 08, 2015, 10:15:27 AM
ahh, I'm a bit of an Asus fangirl, I have an asus phone, laptop and monitor :P (Zenphone 5) I try only to recommend things I have experience using because well...why recommend stuff you have never used? well of course thats a bit silly but hopefully you get my point.
There's nothing wrong with that, I was just saying a lot of folks REALLY recommend ASUS for components for PCs. But recommending things you have tried is helpful, helps folks figure out something based off another person's experience. Generally to a positive degree, as some reviewers have credentials or  a reputation for 'knowing their stuff.' Anyway, I may go for the ASUS Monitor. Seems like a bargain for what it gives you.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 08, 2015, 05:27:33 PM
Another question for Da Agy, or anyone who wishes to answer. What's a good monitor to buy as well? Something that isn't over the top CRAZY expensive, but has a nice picture to it.

I have yet to open the box, but I really like the one I had listed that's 1080p and 144hz. ^_^

as of now, I don't see a reason to buy a 4k tv/monitor yet. in a few years probly, but to me it has not taken off yet enough to warrant the price.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 08, 2015, 06:59:13 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/31/how-to-build-a-pc-2015?page=1

near article about building a pc.

remember to take it with a grain of salt, but its a neat basic guide ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 08, 2015, 07:37:37 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/31/how-to-build-a-pc-2015?page=1

near article about building a pc.

remember to take it with a grain of salt, but its a neat basic guide ^_^

Not a bad find, Agy. It's basic, keeps readers assured that it will be easy. And it really is, been tinkering with my PC now to better understand how to work on one. IT IS ridiculously easy, most of it is screws and a few connectors to the Motherboard like the article mentions. Not much work or hassle. TRULY building your own...that's a different story. lol
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 08, 2015, 07:53:26 PM
Not a bad find, Agy. It's basic, keeps readers assured that it will be easy. And it really is, been tinkering with my PC now to better understand how to work on one. IT IS ridiculously easy, most of it is screws and a few connectors to the Motherboard like the article mentions. Not much work or hassle. TRULY building your own...that's a different story. lol

agy shall have photos soon enough ^_^.............was dead series about thinjing of buying hulk hands just for the pictures XD!!!!

also that printer "should" be on its way finaly XD. I wanted a pic of every single box together before I opened them all up ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 08, 2015, 08:40:09 PM
agy shall have photos soon enough ^_^.............was dead series about thinjing of buying hulk hands just for the pictures XD!!!!

also that printer "should" be on its way finaly XD. I wanted a pic of every single box together before I opened them all up ^_^
haha I was gonna do the same thing, I just ended up digging into it and getting carried away xD  I did take pics of all the boxes together though, its the coolest feeling >~< I love the boxes that pc parts come in.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 08, 2015, 08:40:54 PM
haha I was gonna do the same thing, I just ended up digging into it and getting carried away xD  I did take pics of all the boxes together though, its the coolest feeling >~< I love the boxes that pc parts come in.

yep just waiting on da printer, ...............and maybe hulk hands ^_^! XD
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: YoungSykotic182 on April 08, 2015, 10:50:19 PM
Not a bad find, Agy. It's basic, keeps readers assured that it will be easy. And it really is, been tinkering with my PC now to better understand how to work on one. IT IS ridiculously easy, most of it is screws and a few connectors to the Motherboard like the article mentions. Not much work or hassle. TRULY building your own...that's a different story. lol
Building your own PC from scratch isn't hard in the slightest. It's the programming that gets tricky.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 08, 2015, 10:56:37 PM
Building your own PC from scratch isn't hard in the slightest. It's the programming that gets tricky.

Even ACTUALLY making your own Motherboard? RAM, etc? That's what I meant. But even then, if it's not hard...that's quite interesting.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 08, 2015, 11:33:05 PM
Even ACTUALLY making your own Motherboard? RAM, etc? That's what I meant. But even then, if it's not hard...that's quite interesting.

no, I do not belive that's what syk ment (and if he did he needs to lay off the skooma ;D ^_^).

latterly building an MB from board and placing all the circets and chips and junk is night and day form simply playing legos like we have been talking about ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 09, 2015, 06:44:14 PM
printer came today ^_^!!!

no hulk hands tho, tho I still think it would have been funny ^_^

anywho, agys gona build it this weekend ^_^!!!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Agykoo on April 13, 2015, 10:49:57 AM
khhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^_^

hehe I kid every thing went well ^_^

zomg it took 8 hours to get everything together XD. and that's just the physical stuff. not softwear downloads and such ^_^

some of it was silliness on my part (like having to remove and put back in the video card because its so wombo sized XD)

also because of all the new things and case style. was cra cra ^_^

the most pian in da booty thing to install was the aftermarket cpu cooler. in perticurly the bracket that holds it down. mostly because theres nothing to keep the bracket in place while you try to screw it in, so a slight breeze and it goes flying XD
I can laugh now but I was pissed last night XD!

anywho got it working last night, no smoke or such so that's good ^_^

with the case open the bios said the cpu was hitting 32C-35C at idle. and MB was 4C less. (glad I got that aftermarket cpu cooler XD)

I got pictures of it all ^_^. and hope to have pictures of it set up soon too ^_^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 13, 2015, 08:02:40 PM
Just installed my new PSU after my old one blew up on me. (Hence the absence for the past couple of days). Anyway, SUCCESS! The transplant was a rousing success. :3 I now have functioning (upgraded) PSU!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 14, 2015, 04:47:55 PM
Agy where are the pics >~< *twitches* gotta, see pics...
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MadMiner on April 14, 2015, 05:46:16 PM
Just installed my new PSU after my old one blew up on me. (Hence the absence for the past couple of days). Anyway, SUCCESS! The transplant was a rousing success. :3 I now have functioning (upgraded) PSU!

I had to replace my mates psu because he installed it wrong. (no idea how).

Agy where are the pics >~< *twitches* gotta, see pics...

This :P
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 14, 2015, 07:58:49 PM
I had to replace my mates psu because he installed it wrong. (no idea how).

For some folks, it can be hard to comprehend. I just disconnect, connect, disconnect, connect, so on and so forth. Match the connections and push aside the unused connectors.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 17, 2015, 06:35:36 PM
khhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^_^

hehe I kid every thing went well ^_^

zomg it took 8 hours to get everything together XD. and that's just the physical stuff. not softwear downloads and such ^_^

some of it was silliness on my part (like having to remove and put back in the video card because its so wombo sized XD)

also because of all the new things and case style. was cra cra ^_^

the most pian in da booty thing to install was the aftermarket cpu cooler. in perticurly the bracket that holds it down. mostly because theres nothing to keep the bracket in place while you try to screw it in, so a slight breeze and it goes flying XD
I can laugh now but I was pissed last night XD!

anywho got it working last night, no smoke or such so that's good ^_^

with the case open the bios said the cpu was hitting 32C-35C at idle. and MB was 4C less. (glad I got that aftermarket cpu cooler XD)

I got pictures of it all ^_^. and hope to have pictures of it set up soon too ^_^

I'd love to see them when you get the chance. Feel free to post them here, or on your topic. Anywhere da Agy wishes! :D
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on June 09, 2015, 01:44:03 AM
Quick Question for you tech heads out there.

Slightly customised for price of £705
4.0GHz Intel Core i7 4790 Quad Core / Eight Threaded Turbo Processor
16GB - Kingston DDR3 1600MHz
2TB Hard Drive + 120GB SSD - Seagate Barracuda & Kingston V300
2GB EVGA Nvidia GeForce GT 740 Graphics Card

more info
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111606624967

Or

More customised computer for 880
P-Link TL-WN781ND 150Mbps Wireless Lite N PCI Express Adapter x 1
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB Hard Drive (7200rpm) SATA 64MB (Internal) x 1
Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB Solid State Drive x 1
Corsair Hydro Series H60 2013 model High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler x 1
Asus F2A85-V PRO Motherboard x 1
Corsair Fan SP120 PWM Quiet Edition Low Noise High Pressure Fan x 1
Corsair CX600M Builder Series 600 Watt ATX Modular Power Supply Unit x 1
3 Year Collect & Return warranty x 1
Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit DVD (OEM) x 1
Samsung SH-224DB (24X) DVD-Writer SATA Black (Internal) x 1
HyperX Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) Memory Kit 2133MHz DDR3 CL11 DIMM x 1
Sapphire Radeon R9 285 Dual-X OverClocked 2GB Graphics Card GDDR5 PCI-E HDMI/DisplayPort/Dual-Link DVI-D/Dual-Link DVI-I (UEFI) x 1
Thermaltake Core V31 Midi Gaming Case x 1
AMD Athlon X4 Core 4 (860K) 4.0GHz Processor 4MB (Black Edition) x 1

More info (Slightly incorrect as this is the template for the version above)
http://www.cclonline.com/product/174521/NoMfgCode/All-CCL-Desktops/CCL-Elite-Gryphon-V-Gaming-PC/CCL-EL-GRF5/

Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on June 09, 2015, 03:07:37 AM
I don't think either of them are that great for the money, but the gt 740 gets destroyed by the R9 285
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on June 09, 2015, 03:23:36 AM
I don't think either of them are that great for the money, but the gt 740 gets destroyed by the R9 285
Bets i could get without actualy ording the parts and doing it myself XD.

Thats all i needed to know, Cheers.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on June 09, 2015, 07:00:05 AM
Bets i could get without actualy ording the parts and doing it myself XD.

Thats all i needed to know, Cheers.
But I forgot to mention that the cpu in the first one is much better...

You should build yourself, or find a company that will put it together for you.

Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on June 09, 2015, 11:08:02 AM
But I forgot to mention that the cpu in the first one is much better...

You should build yourself, or find a company that will put it together for you.

I was mentioning that myself last night. Assembling the PC yourself is MUCH better in the long run. But I believe Clerical is not a fan of self building the PC. I did mention trying to find an experienced builder to do it, along with another. :)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on June 21, 2015, 10:11:38 AM
I was mentioning that myself last night. Assembling the PC yourself is MUCH better in the long run. But I believe Clerical is not a fan of self building the PC. I did mention trying to find an experienced builder to do it, along with another. :)
If i can break a hole computer while being grounded by replaceing just a sata hard-drive and knowing exactly what i am doing, id hate to try to build the hole thing myslef, i got my new computer set up tho and just need to order it now.

ASUS PCE-N15 300Mbps PCI-E Wireless card, x 1
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB Hard Drive (7200rpm) SATA 64MB (Internal) x 1
Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition High Airflow Single Fan x 1
Dynamode USB-5PCI-3PFW 5 Port (4+1) PCI USB and Firewire Interface Card x 1
CCL Choice 22x DVD+/-RW Drive x 1
Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB Solid State Drive x 1
3 Year Collect & Return warranty x 1
Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit DVD (OEM) x 1
Be Quiet! BK010 Shadow Rock Slim CPU Cooler x 1
Gigabyte Z97X-GAMING 3 Gaming Motherboard Core i7/i5/i3 LGA1150 Z97 Express Chipset ATX RAID Gigabit LAN (Integrated Graphics) x 1
Intel 4th Generation Core i5 (4690K) 3.5GHz Quad Core Processor 6MB L3 Cache (Boxed) x 1
HyperX Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) Memory Kit 2400MHz DDR3 CL11 DIMM x 1
MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 Gaming (4GB) Graphics Card GDDR5 1140MHz (2 x DVI) DisplayPort HDMI x 1
Antec Edge 650W 80+ Gold Certified Modular PSU x 1
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Nefty on June 29, 2015, 12:46:33 AM
I don't want to start a whole new topic so I guess ill just ask this here. I am getting a computer with a 2TB harddrive, 8GB of RAM, and an Intel i5 - 4460 (I believe) processor. I don't have all the specs on me atm (different computer) but can this run PC games well? Ik the i5 is a good processor but im not entirely sure
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on June 29, 2015, 12:52:05 AM
I don't want to start a whole new topic so I guess ill just ask this here. I am getting a computer with a 2TB harddrive, 8GB of RAM, and an Intel i5 - 4460 (I believe) processor. I don't have all the specs on me atm (different computer) but can this run PC games well? Ik the i5 is a good processor but im not entirely sure
I5 can handle games well, best i5 for gamging is generaly the Intel Core i5-4690K, at that rate even if you would upgrade to an i7 you would not notice any difference in frame-rate.

However the most important part for playing games is the graphics card, usualy most of the price for a computer should go into a graphics card.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on June 30, 2015, 05:50:33 AM
I don't want to start a whole new topic so I guess ill just ask this here. I am getting a computer with a 2TB harddrive, 8GB of RAM, and an Intel i5 - 4460 (I believe) processor. I don't have all the specs on me atm (different computer) but can this run PC games well? Ik the i5 is a good processor but im not entirely sure

Cpu is fine but what really matters is the GPU
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: The White Rabbit on July 15, 2015, 08:55:23 AM
So I finally moved to PC gaming after finishing my current rig.
The problem is I can't remember all the specs since I am at work xD so far I have a can play Skyrim with ENB series and 2K textures or for a newer game I can play Ark: Survival Instinct on High.

I am buying another 8GB of ram to boost to 16GB and a more powerful PSU since my 960 takes over 100W O: my next target is a £130 Motherboard and a 980Ti however I need to save £500+ xD
 
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MadMiner on July 15, 2015, 09:57:20 AM
snip

I've got about £600 saved but I still haven't bothered looking for parts yet. Need to save up more money really.

Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on July 15, 2015, 11:01:34 AM
I've got about £600 saved but I still haven't bothered looking for parts yet. Need to save up more money really.
Even with 600 you can make a gaming PC which out performs the next gen consoles.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MadMiner on July 15, 2015, 11:05:43 AM
Even with 600 you can make a gaming PC which out performs the next gen consoles.

I'm going to build a beefy computer though, since I'll be using it for video editing, 3D rendering etc.

Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: The White Rabbit on July 15, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
I agree my previous rig was about £500 was still really decent it all depends what you wanna play on it. I am just a spoilt man who wants the best of everything xD that's why I am aiming for a £1.5K rig :P
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on January 10, 2016, 08:41:21 AM
So with the advent of PS4 pissing me off on occasion, as well as the limited space of the original hard drive on the PS4, I will be building my new PC in the some-what near future. More importantly I DO need a new PC for TMF, as well as other amazing games I miss out on due to having a substandard computer (One I can't even modify to any extent minus the PSU). >.> Once I get the money right, I am going to purchase my top choices all at once, then post photos of the finished product/progress. Note to self: get new speakers too.

Anyone else been building their own rigs lately?
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on January 10, 2016, 09:17:47 AM
I made one not to long ago, if you only want it for gaming you can run almost every game max settings 1080p with a gtx 960 with an I5 4690. thats what i went with and did not disapoint. you could probably get a lower process and graphics card and still max out most games seeming im getting 1-200 FPS is alot of the games i play lol
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on January 10, 2016, 10:16:32 AM
I made one not to long ago, if you only want it for gaming you can run almost every game max settings 1080p with a gtx 960 with an I5 4690. thats what i went with and did not disapoint. you could probably get a lower process and graphics card and still max out most games seeming im getting 1-200 FPS is alot of the games i play lol
Yeah that is preferably what I want this PC rig to be for: Gaming. And maybe other minor things, things that a rig like this can handle with no issue. What kind of games do you usually play on yours?
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on January 11, 2016, 01:08:37 AM
Yeah that is preferably what I want this PC rig to be for: Gaming. And maybe other minor things, things that a rig like this can handle with no issue. What kind of games do you usually play on yours?
Most PC instensive game i've played is bioshock infinite/tomb rader, where i get over 200 FPS on max settings. i got fall out 4 but not played it yet.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Gary on January 11, 2016, 01:13:28 AM
So with the advent of PS4 pissing me off on occasion, as well as the limited space of the original hard drive on the PS4, I will be building my new PC in the some-what near future. More importantly I DO need a new PC for TMF, as well as other amazing games I miss out on due to having a substandard computer (One I can't even modify to any extent minus the PSU). >.> Once I get the money right, I am going to purchase my top choices all at once, then post photos of the finished product/progress. Note to self: get new speakers too.

Anyone else been building their own rigs lately?

Bought my friends custom built not too long ago.

Just last week I also picked up a nice 130 dollar mechanical keyboard and a new gaming mouse.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on January 11, 2016, 05:26:50 AM
Bought my friends custom built not too long ago.

Just last week I also picked up a nice 130 dollar mechanical keyboard and a new gaming mouse.
NOICE! Do you know the specs/parts used in said rig? :D

What kind of mouse and keyboard are they?

Most PC instensive game i've played is bioshock infinite/tomb rader, where i get over 200 FPS on max settings. i got fall out 4 but not played it yet.
Oh wow. So your rig is the real deal. I heard running Bioshock Infinite on a PC without many issues was a good sign of a good PC.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on January 11, 2016, 06:59:30 AM
NOICE! Do you know the specs/parts used in said rig? :D

What kind of mouse and keyboard are they?
Oh wow. So your rig is the real deal. I heard running Bioshock Infinite on a PC without many issues was a good sign of a good PC.
Bioshock and tomb rader are both games used in most bench mark tests for capture cards as they are both popular and have nice graphics.
And a GTX 960 is not that expensive either but it still has no problem running most issus 1080p maxed out.
If you have a 4k monitor or something like that, then you'll need capture cards that are often more then double the price by quite abit.

But for 1080p i suggest the GTX 960 And a I5 4960 processor, As anything higher then an I5 4960 will offer no difference in gaming.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on January 11, 2016, 06:41:33 PM
Bioshock and tomb rader are both games used in most bench mark tests for capture cards as they are both popular and have nice graphics.
And a GTX 960 is not that expensive either but it still has no problem running most issus 1080p maxed out.
If you have a 4k monitor or something like that, then you'll need capture cards that are often more then double the price by quite abit.

But for 1080p i suggest the GTX 960 And a I5 4960 processor, As anything higher then an I5 4960 will offer no difference in gaming.

Dark Souls Reference: So basically going higher than I5 4960 is like boosting Vitality to 99. After level 50-ish there is just no point as it does nothing, right? lol
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Clerical on January 12, 2016, 03:23:35 AM
Dark Souls Reference: So basically going higher than I5 4960 is like boosting Vitality to 99. After level 50-ish there is just no point as it does nothing, right? lol
In dark souls you still get like 2 health after lv 50, Upgrading from an 15 4960 to even an i7 5820k will only somtimes give you 1 frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hto2JMHqATI
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on January 12, 2016, 05:27:15 PM
In dark souls you still get like 2 health after lv 50, Upgrading from an 15 4960 to even an i7 5820k will only somtimes give you 1 frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hto2JMHqATI

Even so, I don't think my first custom rig will be OVER THE TOP right away. Need something functional first and foremost, then I'll start really tinkering more.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on January 13, 2016, 10:42:42 PM
In dark souls you still get like 2 health after lv 50, Upgrading from an 15 4960 to even an i7 5820k will only somtimes give you 1 frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hto2JMHqATI

It does depend on the game sometimes but this is correct, most games barely scale past 4 cores except for very heavy multithreaded ones like GTA V, Battlefield 4 (multiplayer) you can also choice to get a cheaper xeon e3 1231 which is a 4core hyperthreaded chip (essentially the I7 4770 without an igp) thats the silicone its based off. It's useful if you video edit or play those games where every extra thread helps and costs less than an i7.

In most cases an i5 4690k or the i5 6500k (not sure on the skylake models off the top of my head) overclocked is really the best option for gaming becuase you get basically the best singlethreaded performance and also very solid multithreaded performance.

Before someone says Xeons arent for gaming, that depends on the xeon you are talking about :P theres $25000 models and $300 models.

(http://i.imgur.com/oiSVXZ3.png)

Thats what I chose to power my rig, its the same 1150 socket as the i7 4790 so if I really wanted to I could upgrade to that but the performance gain wouldn't be worth it.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on March 31, 2016, 08:52:40 PM
Jack's Gaming Rig(Beginning)

Below is what I've decided to stick with, but with a minor adjustment I will mention at the bottom.

Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ($90)

CPU

AMD FX-6300 6-Core ($100)

RAM

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz ($65)

Graphics Card

EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC ACX 2.0+ 2GB ($210)

Hard Drive

WD Blue 1 TB ($50)

Optical Drive

Asus 24x DVD Burner ($21)

Case

Rosewill Challenger ATX Mid Tower ($57)

Power Supply

Corsair Builder Series CX 500 Watt ($58)


Total Cost: $651 (USD)

===================================================================

Graphics Card(Change)
Instead of an EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC ACX 2.0+ 2GB I may get this EVGA GeForce GTX 750Ti with G-SYNC Support 2GB GDDR5 128bit, Dual-Link, DVI-I, HDMI, DP Graphics Card as it runs almost as good for about 70 bucks cheaper.

Modified Total Cost: $580.99 (USD)

Found out, with my modified Graphics Card and the prices on Amazon, the total would be around $555.44 USD. Which is not bad from the supposed power and capabilities of this PC.

Another possible, slightly altered build:



Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ($68)

CPU

AMD FX-6300 6-Core Black Edition ($100)

RAM

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz ($37)

Graphics Card

Gigabyte AMD R9 380 4GB ($210)

Hard Drive

WD Blue 1 TB ($54)

Case

Rosewill Galaxy-01 ATX Mid Tower ($45)

Power Supply

EVGA 600 B1 80+ Bronze (600W) ($45)

DVD Drive

Asus 24x DVD Burner ($23)

Total Cost: $582 (USD)

Debating on which one to follow through with. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 01, 2016, 07:28:21 AM
I'd recommend the i3 over the fx 6300 personally, the platform also has an upgrade path to an i7 for example.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QbRGvK

I skipped out the dvd drive, so if you want that just add it on :) prefer sapphire video cards myself and gigabytes amd cards have all been fairly meh recently.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 01, 2016, 02:00:03 PM
I'd recommend the i3 over the fx 6300 personally, the platform also has an upgrade path to an i7 for example.
It would still be compatible with this build though, right?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QbRGvK

I skipped out the dvd drive, so if you want that just add it on :) prefer sapphire video cards myself and gigabytes amd cards have all been fairly meh recently.

Okay, thanks Kitty! I'll check into alternative cards over the ones up there and see if any are better off. All I want to do is find a decent compatible set for this rig. I can save money, but at the same time I can play all the games I want on PC with no power/memory/graphics issues. ^-^
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Fuertey on April 01, 2016, 03:45:17 PM
I've been doing my own research on this recently and the general consensus is that if you're just going to be gaming then you'd be better off with the i5. Maybe just an i3.

But if you're going to be streaming as well as gaming on the same rig or you're going to be converting video then the FX 6300 (6-core) or if you can, the FX 8320 or FX 8320e (8-core) will start becoming the better choice due to the extra cores.

With the AMD CPUs, in single threaded operations the FX 6300 will be better as it has a higher stock clock speed (3.5Ghz). But with multi-threaded operations the FX 8320 wins out due to it's extra two cores. It might only have a 3.2Ghz clock speed but this can easily be overclocked to 4Ghz and higher. Most people have it stable at 4.6Ghz. But as Kitty says, The FX and AMD has a severely limited upgrade path.

Be careful with benchmarks as i can run Bioshock Infinite, Fallout 4 and most other new games at 1080p on max settings @ 60+fps with only an AMD x3 (tri-core) processor @ 4Ghz and a 2GB Gddr5 GPU. Which shows that benchmarks can sometimes be misleading as this rig is far from the most powerful but doesn't even break a sweat when it comes to the mentioned games.

When it comes to fps anything above 30fps (depending on the game) should be satisfactory. The higher the better of course but I think you would be hard pressed to notice the difference on anything higher than 60fps.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 01, 2016, 04:26:16 PM
I've been doing my own research on this recently and the general consensus is that if you're just going to be gaming then you'd be better off with the i5. Maybe just an i3.
Yes, nothing but purely gaming and MAYBE browsing the web as usual. Nothing much else.

But if you're going to be streaming as well as gaming on the same rig or you're going to be converting video then the FX 6300 (6-core) or if you can, the FX 8320 or FX 8320e (8-core) will start becoming the better choice due to the extra cores.
I'm pretty old school as far as this goes. I just need it for gaming mostly, and small applications elsewhere. Internet browsing and video playing I.e DVD's/Blu-Ray.

With the AMD CPUs, in single threaded operations the FX 6300 will be better as it has a higher stock clock speed (3.5Ghz). But with multi-threaded operations the FX 8320 wins out due to it's extra two cores. It might only have a 3.2Ghz clock speed but this can easily be overclocked to 4Ghz and higher. Most people have it stable at 4.6Ghz. But as Kitty says, The FX and AMD has a severely limited upgrade path.
I am more of a casual gamer, I play often but not at a Semi-Pro to Pr level. Overclocking won't be necessary. But thank you, I will look into others.

Be careful with benchmarks as i can run Bioshock Infinite, Fallout 4 and most other new games at 1080p on max settings @ 60+fps with only an AMD x3 (tri-core) processor @ 4Ghz and a 2GB Gddr5 GPU. Which shows that benchmarks can sometimes be misleading as this rig is far from the most powerful but doesn't even break a sweat when it comes to the mentioned games.

When it comes to fps anything above 30fps (depending on the game) should be satisfactory. The higher the better of course but I think you would be hard pressed to notice the difference on anything higher than 60fps.
Frames Per Second are generally not a bother for me. I tend to just enjoy if the game isn't squares or side scroll anymore.  HD is nice but also unnecessary. lol But thank you for your input, I will definitely investigate more before purchasing. :)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Muffin on April 16, 2016, 12:29:24 AM
Going to be needing a new computer soon, and I have been looking into building one for cheap.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6wZs6h
Thoughts so far? I'm willing to spend ~$60 more if needed, but not trying to pass $450.
Not really looking to be able to play all the new games on ultra settings, but would be nice to know if this could run some of them on medium settings. (GTA V, Fallout 4, ect)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Fuertey on April 16, 2016, 01:51:06 AM
Going to be needing a new computer soon, and I have been looking into building one for cheap.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6wZs6h
Thoughts so far? I'm willing to spend ~$60 more if needed, but not trying to pass $450.
Not really looking to be able to play all the new games on ultra settings, but would be nice to know if this could run some of them on medium settings. (GTA V, Fallout 4, ect)

That setup should run the mentioned games fine.

I've not looked into it in great detail but at first glance i would suggest using 2x4GB Ram to use dual channel for faster access.

Also consider spending a little extra on a decent PSU with more power. Around 600W should be fine. I'd suggest a reputable brand like Corsair or Silverstone, even if you go over your budget. The PSU is one of, if not the most important component and you don't want to be using a cheap crappy brand. Especially not with decent components like your CPU and GPU.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Fuertey on April 16, 2016, 02:08:54 AM
If you want to stay with the same brands and colour then for your ram it's worth spending a little extra on these:

http://www.outletpc.com/mh3552.html

Or you're willing to spend a little more:

http://www.outletpc.com/se2579-cmz8gx3m2a1866r.html

I had a pair of the above Corsair RAM for a long time and can't fault it one bit. It never let me down.

For a PSU:

http://www.outletpc.com/gc2222-evga-600b-80-plus-bronze-atx-power-supply.html

Both mean spending more but still within your budget. That's the best i could find on that site within your budget.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Muffin on April 16, 2016, 02:23:09 AM
If you want to stay with the same brands and colour then for your ram it's worth spending a little extra on these:

http://www.outletpc.com/mh3552.html

Or you're willing to spend a little more:

http://www.outletpc.com/se2579-cmz8gx3m2a1866r.html

I had a pair of the above Corsair RAM for a long time and can't fault it one bit. It never let me down.

For a PSU:

http://www.outletpc.com/gc2222-evga-600b-80-plus-bronze-atx-power-supply.html

Both mean spending more but still within your budget. That's the best i could find on that site within your budget.
Swapped out the ram. While you were posting, I was browsing for a power supply and was wondering if it was worth it to go a little cheaper with this: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on April 16, 2016, 11:29:39 AM
If there is one thing you should NOT cut costs on,  it's a PSU. Get the best and most reliable. If that doesn't work your whole pc rig won't. Take my word for it.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Muffin on April 16, 2016, 11:04:06 PM
Made a few tweaks. Thoughts?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BkkCBm
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 17, 2016, 04:34:24 AM
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LrXXXL

This would be my choice instead.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Fuertey on April 17, 2016, 06:58:30 AM
Made a few tweaks. Thoughts?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BkkCBm

That would be fine for what you want.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LrXXXL

This would be my choice instead.

Swapping what he had with a more power hungry GPU and a lower wattage PSU makes no sense. With the rest of his setup and the R9 380 he's going to be pushing it at 500W.

The GTX 950 is fine for what he wants and he will benefit more with the higher wattage PSU.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Fuertey on April 17, 2016, 08:00:55 AM
Forgot to add my setup to my post:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tHyDrH

With the exception of 2 of the Hardrives and Keyboard & Mouse I have all of it and installed. Just need to do the cabling and install the OS and other Software etc...

Not sure about the mouse as i already have a Logitech Performance MX (http://support.logitech.com/en_gb/product/performance-mouse-mx) mouse which is brilliant. But can't help but think i'd be better of with a wired mouse for gaming.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Kitty on April 17, 2016, 08:32:07 AM
Made a few tweaks. Thoughts?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BkkCBm

That would be fine for what you want.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LrXXXL

This would be my choice instead.

Swapping what he had with a more power hungry GPU and a lower wattage PSU makes no sense. With the rest of his setup and the R9 380 he's going to be pushing it at 500W.

The GTX 950 is fine for what he wants and he will benefit more with the higher wattage PSU.
A more powerful gpu (with more vram to), that setup wont even push near 600w, the cpu and gpu combined max 380 maybe under full load.

I ran a way more power hungry setup on my antec vp 550w psu, R9 390 and an Xeon e3 1231v3 with no issues at all.

if you really want go for a 600w, but for that rig 500w is fine honestly.

Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on September 29, 2016, 11:05:36 PM
Guess I shall start this back up due TMF on PC coming (one day). Trying to save enough EXTRA money to get my previously stated rig. However, I may alter it due to some parts either not being sold anymore, or simply because I found a cheaper alternative that works just as well (if not better).
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: FatbFFA on December 19, 2016, 06:44:25 PM
OK People Tell me if I did well.

I got these parts and just made them work.

CPU-i7-4790k
GPU-GTX 960 4GB
Hard Drive-4TB
Ram-32GB DDR3
Motherboard-Asus P7P55D LX
Power Supply-XPlus Power 725W
NO SSD
DON'T KNOW THE CASE  :P(Off the top of my head)
DON'T KNOW THE CPU's FAN :P(Off the top of my head)
Got this for $500


(http://i66.tinypic.com/ossbp2.jpg)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: MrMarooca on December 19, 2016, 07:56:04 PM
Got this for $500.

Dang, sounds like you got a hell of a deal considering the price of the CPU and GPU alone  nearly make up the total price! Nice build!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: FatbFFA on December 19, 2016, 08:00:56 PM
Got this for $500.

Dang, sounds like you got a hell of a deal considering the price of the CPU and GPU alone nearly make up the total price! Nice build!
Yea I work at a place with many spare parts and I went and said "I'll give you 500 if I can build a pc" took time as I had no idea on building PC's before this so it was a good experience and I got a pc out of it :P.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: CDJ on January 15, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
Introduction

[How to] Building your own gaming PC?
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First and foremost, I am not going to be giving a detailed 'How To' on making a gaming PC. Hence the question mark in the topic name, this is more or less a way to learn how to optimally make your own gaming PC. With help from others, and what I can provide, I am going to try and build my very own. This is more of a query topic, to help myself find the best way to make my gaming/personal computer rig. I also want to help others who may be in need of some assistance on building their own PC. This is an off shoot of Agy's topic, only mine will be for personal use and gaming. We're going to gather the best information/tips from others that we can compile to better help build a PC. I will provide simple ways to begin, because building a PC can seem overwhelming. But I found out, through various sources, that it's quite simple. It's almost HARD to mess it up, if you know what you want and need. Below I will explain the basic functional gaming computer components you will need. From there, you can expand on it with your own information, or help from others. I want this to be a discussion and help topic, as well as a learning experience for everyone. I eventually want this topic to transform into a [How To] that works for everyone. Hope you enjoy!

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Basic Components

From here on out I will name the functioning pieces you will need to assemble your very own PC. The point AFTER this is which brand, how much you use, and what it is for. Mostly this will be for gaming for me, so I am thinking with that in mind. Anyway, without further ado here are the components and what they do:

  • CPU- (Central Processing Unit) The key component of a computer system, which contains the circuitry necessary to interpret and execute program instructions.
  • CPU Cooler- A device that draws heat away from a CPU chip and other hot-running chips such as a graphics processor (GPU). (I believe this can be optional, unless you are over clocking something.)
  • Motherboard- The motherboard is the main circuit board of your computer and is also known as the main board or logic board. Attached to the motherboard, you'll find the CPU, ROM, memory RAM expansion slots, PCI slots, and USB ports. It also includes controllers for devices like the hard drive, DVD drive, keyboard, and mouse. Basically, the motherboard is what makes everything in your computer work together.
  • RAM- (Random Access Memory) The primary working memory in a computer, used for the temporary storage of programs and data and in which the data can be accessed directly and modified.
  • Hard Drive- A high-capacity, self-contained storage device containing a read-write mechanism plus one or more hard disks, inside a sealed unit. Also called hard disk drive.
  • Graphics Card- A printed circuit board that controls the output to a display screen.
  • Case- A computer case also known as a computer chassis, tower, system unit, cabinet, base unit or simply case, is the enclosure that contains most of the components of a computer (usually excluding the display, keyboard and mouse).
  • Power Supply- Also called a power supply unit or PSU, the component that supplies power to a computer.
*Optional-
SSD- (Solid State Drive) a storage device containing nonvolatile flash memory, used in place of a hard disk because of its much greater speed.

This is all you will need to build your own computer. From here it gets tricky as far as what to buy, what parts work well with others, etc. Basically personal preference, or others personal experience are needed. But only for folks like myself, whom have NEVER built a computer and need tips. This also goes for others that need help to. So, now we begin solving the issue, and learning new things in the mean time. And if you'd like, even talk about your own past projects. How you build them, or what you recommend for beginners, let's make this a wonderful discussion into PC building!

This helped a lot, thanks jack!
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on January 15, 2017, 04:30:31 PM
This helped a lot, thanks jack!
No problem. Just trying to learn and get better at building my rig. Just like others. Glad it helped. :)
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: TheDestinedCrab on December 26, 2018, 08:48:58 AM
Heya guys!

So Iím in the process of building myself a new PC. Iíve bought an MSI Gaming Motherboard (Z270 Gaming Plus) (http://ďhttps://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-GAMING-PLUS.htmlĒ). Over the next few months I aim to have my PC created. Itís my birthday in mid March so Iím hoping that around about then Iíll have finished making it.

Just thought Iíd make a post here as I am very excited about it!!

Cheers,
Crab.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Jack Of Shades on February 13, 2019, 02:15:20 AM
Keep us posted. I'm still trying to get my rig together. Many life events have postponed my very first hand built gaming PC.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: TheDestinedCrab on March 12, 2019, 04:15:07 AM
Okay so a bit of an update.

Itís my birthday and Iíve received a few things. First itís worth noting that I changed the motherboard for and MSI H310M PRO-VH. Iíve revived and Intel i3 8th Gen LGA1151 core (quad core 3.6ghz) along with and LGA1151 CPU cooler.

Edit:

I've just purchased and 8gb stick of DDR4 RAM (Later on I'll uograde to 16gb) along with a 240gb SSD.

The only things I have left on the list are my PSU, GPU, Case and a Few extra fans couldn't hurt
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Lord Leo on March 12, 2019, 03:34:12 PM
Okay so a bit of an update.

Itís my birthday and Iíve received a few things. First itís worth noting that I changed the motherboard for and MSI H310M PRO-VH. Iíve revived and Intel i3 8th Gen LGA1151 core (quad core 3.6ghz) along with and LGA1151 CPU cooler.

Edit:

I've just purchased and 8gb stick of DDR4 RAM (Later on I'll uograde to 16gb) along with a 240gb SSD.

The only things I have left on the list are my PSU, GPU, Case and a Few extra fans couldn't hurt
You shouldnt need to many fans for the i3, what gpu do you plan on getting?
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Lunar on March 14, 2019, 05:48:46 AM
32GB DDR3
in your opinion would you rather have say 8 or 16 gb of ddr4 rather than 32 of ddr3?
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Fuertey on March 14, 2019, 09:22:00 AM
I've just purchased and 8gb stick of DDR4 RAM (Later on I'll uograde to 16gb) along with a 240gb SSD.

If your motherboard has 4 slots then you're better off with 4 x 4gb.

2 x 4gb is also better than 1 x 8gb.

Unless you only have 2 slots and plan on running 2 x 8gb eventually.

in your opinion would you rather have say 8 or 16 gb of ddr4 rather than 32 of ddr3?

Other than ddr4 having higher clock speeds there's not a massive difference. It's arguable whether the typical end user would notice any difference at all.

But... that's irrelevant as they're not 'backwards compatible' You can't use ddr3 in a ddr4 motherboard or ddr4 in a ddr3 motherboard. So any comparisons would also involve different motherboards and processors.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: TheDestinedCrab on March 14, 2019, 10:58:57 AM
I've just purchased and 8gb stick of DDR4 RAM (Later on I'll uograde to 16gb) along with a 240gb SSD.

If your motherboard has 4 slots then you're better off with 4 x 4gb.

2 x 4gb is also better than 1 x 8gb.

Unless you only have 2 slots and plan on running 2 x 8gb eventually.

in your opinion would you rather have say 8 or 16 gb of ddr4 rather than 32 of ddr3?

Other than ddr4 having higher clock speeds there's not a massive difference. It's arguable whether the typical end user would notice any difference at all.

But... that's irrelevant as they're not 'backwards compatible' You can't use ddr3 in a ddr4 motherboard or ddr4 in a ddr3 motherboard. So any comparisons would also involve different motherboards and processors.


I have 2 RAM slots and plan on upgrading to 16gb which should more than cover what I need.

Adding on to what you said to Lunar my board is only compatible with DDR4, same with my CPU.
Okay so a bit of an update.

Itís my birthday and Iíve received a few things. First itís worth noting that I changed the motherboard for and MSI H310M PRO-VH. Iíve revived and Intel i3 8th Gen LGA1151 core (quad core 3.6ghz) along with and LGA1151 CPU cooler.

Edit:

I've just purchased and 8gb stick of DDR4 RAM (Later on I'll uograde to 16gb) along with a 240gb SSD.

The only things I have left on the list are my PSU, GPU, Case and a Few extra fans couldn't hurt
You shouldnt need to many fans for the i3, what gpu do you plan on getting?

Iím torn at the moment. Iíll let you know when I eventually make up my mind lmao.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Lunar on March 14, 2019, 04:40:30 PM
i use ddr3 and it seems to work just fine, just wondering if i should make the change to ddr4.

also fun fact, i spent 400 on parts to get a barebones pc going that i can buy a new part for every paycheck to get a good pc, built it like normal and nothing ever worked and to this day im still so confused on what happened
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: TheDestinedCrab on March 15, 2019, 06:47:23 AM
i use ddr3 and it seems to work just fine, just wondering if i should make the change to ddr4.

also fun fact, i spent 400 on parts to get a barebones pc going that i can buy a new part for every paycheck to get a good pc, built it like normal and nothing ever worked and to this day im still so confused on what happened

To upgrade your RAM to DDR4 youíd have to buy a new motherboard as well which would essentially mean almost building a whole new computer. If youíre not having any issues with DDR3 thereís no need to spend all that money. Not to mention how expensive DDR4 RAM is. I spent £40 on a Corsair 1X8GB.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: Lunar on March 15, 2019, 06:49:15 AM
im talking about for my completely new pc build not just upgrading only ram
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: TheDestinedCrab on March 15, 2019, 06:51:00 AM
In which case to future proof a pc for as long as possible (a few years :P ) DDR4 is a good option. Thereís nothing wrong with DDR3 though.
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: TheDestinedCrab on March 24, 2019, 02:29:28 AM
I have my Corsair VS 550w PSU coming today. Should be more than enough power for my PC. Also, I have my case coming today as well.

Iím using interstates graphics until I can pay for a decent GPU (Noob life)

When they arrive today, itsís time to start building! :D
Title: Re: [How to] Building your own gaming PC?
Post by: TheDestinedCrab on March 26, 2019, 08:25:13 AM
Okay, so for anyone interested I have built my new computer! Well sort of :P As earlier stated, I'm using onboard intel CPU graphics until I can afford a good GPU.

PC Info:

CPU (Processor): Intel core i3 8100 3.6Ghz (Quad Core)
RAM: 8 x 1 GB DDR4 RAM - Later to be upgraded to 16GB
Motherboard: MSI H310M PRO-VH
PSU: Corsair VS550w
Storage: Currently 240GB SSD + 80GB HDD - later to be upgraded to a bigger HDD probably
GPU: Currently Intel onboard graphics - later to be upgraded to a better GPU yet to be chosen.
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro

Thanks to those who supported me along the way <3